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All about Clarinets / Re: Selling price for a Buffet C. R 13...
« Last post by LTrope on Today at 09:14:53 AM »
Thank you, Dave!  :) Were both or either of the clarinets recently re-padded or repaired? I am wondering what kind of condition they were in.  Also, do you suggest a good website for selling? Really appreciate the response.

All about Clarinets / Re: HP or LP, and what key? (A buyer's guide)
« Last post by windydankoff on Today at 06:46:49 AM »
A client sent me a Buffet Crampon Boehm system clarinet dated to 1900. He bought with the barrel missing. He thought it was a C clarinet because it's so short. It's nicely restored but ... He bought a C barrel for it and the tuning was way out of proportion. He sent it to me, since I work on C clarinets. It's longer than a C. It's an old-standard high-pitch (HP) Bb.

I tested various barrels and found an antique one that plays just right. (Both length and bore are critical, to assure good 12ths, top to bottom.)  After I found this sweet spot of overall intonation where it's "in tune with itself", I varied the setting of my tuner and found A=454 would show good tuning all around.

That is within the HP orchestral range from the 1900 era, as I understand it.

My substitute barrel of choice:  62mm long, bore 15.14mm (.596")

Length top of barrel to bell is 562mm (22 1/8")
BORE at top of upper joint is 14.96mm (.589") which is typical of a modern Bb.

I agree with Windsong that a measurement just in the upper range of the instrument is very useful. In the lower joint and the bell, inside dimensions vary widely between instruments, and thus they effect the overall length even for equally pitched horns. So, here it is:
Top of barrel to the center of LH index tone hole is 167mm (6.58").

Now what?
Is it worth trying to sell? (with a substitute barrel) Does anyone play these things? Or is it just a lamp candidate?
All about Clarinets / Re: Selling price for a Buffet C. R 13...
« Last post by DaveLeBlanc on Today at 12:28:57 AM »
I have sold two R13s in the past year - one for $1225 (1960 model) and one for $1330 (1974)
All about Clarinets / Selling price for a Buffet C. R 13...
« Last post by LTrope on September 22, 2019, 07:11:33 PM »
Hi everyone!

I am new to this forum and found it through ClarinetPages.Net  :)

I played clarinet through middle school and high school and was gifted from a friend of a friend a:

Buffet Crampon 150e anniversaries 1825-1975 wooden R13 clarinet.

I am interested in picking it back up, but do not need, what I believe to be, a semi-professional clarinet? I would just be playing for fun.

It needs to be re-padded and I can get that done for about $330.

 I am wondering if anyone can share an estimate on what this clarinet would sell for? I am not sure how to attach a photo on here, but can definitely send a photo to anyone who wants to see it.

Feel free to connect on here (not sure if I receive an email about these posts?) or send me an email at

Thank you!
All about Clarinets / Re: G Clarinet Boehm (French) system, new from China (!)
« Last post by philpedler on September 21, 2019, 09:32:25 AM »
Having the original barrel glued on at the very edge wasn't sturdy. One doesn't need fancy materials to make a clarinet bell. I can't tell the difference in how this sounds, but it appears to be better in tune.
All about Clarinets / Re: Good luck, eBay seller
« Last post by jordan.1210 on September 17, 2019, 12:14:25 AM »
Sorry to be reviving a dead thread, but I feel this needed sharing.

I might not know everything about every model of clarinet, but the details in the description don't seem to add up
All about Clarinets / Why don't clarinets come standard with low-Eb?
« Last post by DaveLeBlanc on September 15, 2019, 08:19:32 PM »

It just involves one extra key and like 2 more inches of material. So why is a low-Eb soprano clarinet like $500 more expensive?

For that matter, why are some alto and bass (and even contra alto!) clarinets NOT extended to low Eb?
I have personally played on larger clarinets with no Eb.
V. Kohlert wood alto
Conn hard rubber bass
Selmer Paris rosewood contra alto

Why in the world would they even make a larger clarinet without the extension?
Make and Model lists and research / Grandpas old clarinet
« Last post by Ajshns29 on September 12, 2019, 07:29:02 PM »
My grandfather gave me his old clarinet when I joined band in 6th grade in the late 90s.  I played it through high school and now my daughter is in high school band and is playing the "rental" clarinet that she has had since 5th grade. She wants to play my clarinet as hers need to be serviced. So I guess my question is. Do I have grandpa's clarinet fixed up for her to use?  I dont know what it is other than old. Lol. I can see jerome and Paris in the makers mark but I dont know what that means. Or should I have her plastic clarinet tuned up? 
All about Clarinets / Re: Jazz Clarinet Mouthpieces
« Last post by windydankoff on September 12, 2019, 09:56:38 AM »
You're getting better, Larry! Your intonation is excellent except you need to practice the three (!) proper ways to produce that Eb. You are cheating by hitting the ring. It has no advantages over the THREE legit fingerings. And, it's coming out sharp. It serves you OK on this song, but will be out of tune on others and awkward too. I would tend to use finger R1 to produce the Eb. If it doesn't work, check the link between the joints. The cork often needs adjustment to make it work right, but it's worth it. Flute and sax have the same fingering option, BTW.

I suggest you tongue more. Sing the song in the form of doot-doo-doot, for practice. And, use a metronome habitually.

Back on topic, practice dropping jaw and loosening to BEND notes downward. Try it on that E, bending toward an Eb as a more bluesy voice-like expression. That's called "down in Dixie".
All about Clarinets / Re: Jazz Clarinet Mouthpieces
« Last post by LarryS on September 10, 2019, 03:52:45 PM »
Larry - With my classical MPs, I can drop my jaw and loosen a bit and drop the pitch about a quarter-tone. I can play Dixie-like and bluesy.

All beginners start out at least 1/4-step flat. It's not hard! If your MP will allow you to do that, then I contend that you have an adequate MP for jazz.

You may want a higher-grade MP when you get a chance to try some out, but not necessarily a more open one. I've tried a few more-open pieces. I've had to blow too hard for comfort, with too much air, and found them hard to control. And, hard to play softly. Standard MPs are a happy medium that works for most jazz as well as classical players.

Try that pitch drop that is essential to jazz and blues, and tell us how it goes.
Windy,check this out. I'm playing an old Dixieland number called Careless Love.
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