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Re: The Honest Seller Thread
« Reply #46 on: November 25, 2017, 03:03:13 AM »
It took me a while but now I know the "signature" of this forgery ; http://www.ebay.com/itm/new-BUFFET-Bb12-clarinet-with-in-Beautiful-box-/162199599140?hash=item25c3d97824:g:iioAAOSwuYVWmtWZ

I won't disclose the "tell"(there's actually two) just yet - I want a fellow forum member to find it too!
It took me a while but now I know the "signature" of this forgery ; http://www.ebay.com/itm/new-BUFFET-Bb12-clarinet-with-in-Beautiful-box-/162199599140?hash=item25c3d97824:g:iioAAOSwuYVWmtWZ

I won't disclose the "tell"(there's actually two) just yet - I want a fellow forum member to find it too!
The "B 12" designation looks a bit off, but that's all I see.
The yellow foam things I've seen in several other Chinese clarinets, so that might be something.

I can't believe they faked the brochures/literature and even the cork grease!

Bingo on the "B 12" font! - also see 2 barrels? That just screams cheap. Oh, and the listing title - notice that it's 'Bb12' not actually 'B12'.

Good call on the yellow foam things too Dave.

These guys sure try hard though - that logo is very close to the real thing.
Hmm my Windsor came with those yellow sponges. I just thought that was normal.
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Re: The Honest Seller Thread
« Reply #47 on: November 27, 2017, 04:52:17 AM »
Andybeals asks the question that i too, would like answered.  Am i not a clarinet, and a woodwind?

This guy has the answer.  You may be exquisite, and a clarinet, but really, you’re just a small black tube that should be filibustered in step 3.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Exquisite-E-clarinet-small-black-tube/332459092333?hash=item4d681b296d:g:juEAAOSwFARZxwML

That's some fine Chinglish.  I have a branded Chinese eefer - it's not horrible. 
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Re: The Honest Seller Thread
« Reply #48 on: November 27, 2017, 07:00:03 AM »
Good to know, I've looked at them.  The cost of a case alone is 45 bucks, and for about 35 to 40 more, I could get a clarinet along with the case.
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Re: The Honest Seller Thread
« Reply #49 on: November 27, 2017, 07:58:07 AM »
Those little Ebs look cute. I quite like the idea of a bass too but wow, expensive!
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Re: The Honest Seller Thread
« Reply #50 on: November 27, 2017, 01:23:49 PM »
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Re: The Honest Seller Thread
« Reply #51 on: November 27, 2017, 03:04:20 PM »
I'm kind of tempted to strip it and see what's really underneath... could be a treasure?
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Re: The Honest Seller Thread
« Reply #52 on: November 27, 2017, 03:28:04 PM »
I'm just going to "face palm" on this one!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/CUSTOM-1960-s-Buffet-White-Clarinet/142600947330?hash=item2133adc682:g:MbQAAOSwXaRZ86jr
Wow, just wow!

"This is a WOOD clarinet, and no the paint did not change the sound or playability"
No but I bet it certainly affects the wood's ability to breathe!
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Re: The Honest Seller Thread
« Reply #53 on: November 27, 2017, 08:00:06 PM »
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Re: The Honest Seller Thread
« Reply #54 on: November 28, 2017, 02:25:21 AM »
I'm kind of tempted to strip it and see what's really underneath... could be a treasure?

If they'd done a better job it might have looked ok. 

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Re: The Honest Seller Thread
« Reply #55 on: November 28, 2017, 04:11:08 PM »
Quote from: andybeals link=topic=1035.msg10970#msg10970 date=1511787137
That's some fine Chinglish.  I have a branded Chinese eefer - it's not horrible.
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Andy, I encourage you to start a new thread in regards to your Chinese eefer. Just a mini-review if possible.  Maybe disclose the seller (eBay, I assume) and the "brand".  I'm very interested in these little clarinets.
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Re: The Honest Seller Thread
« Reply #56 on: February 26, 2018, 08:12:56 PM »
Heartbreaking; viewer discretion advised:

This a legitimate fear of mine--I die with a clarinet torn down and am the only one among my household who knows what goes where, and where each piece has been carefully placed.  I wonder if the keys are still among her late husband's things, neatly tucked into small tabletop drawers, screaming to be let out and reunited with their clarinet. 
I always liked the Omega.  Perhaps a small miracle will happen, and the seller will find the keys.

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Re: The Honest Seller Thread
« Reply #57 on: February 27, 2018, 09:53:48 AM »
Heartbreaking; viewer discretion advised:

This a legitimate fear of mine--I die with a clarinet torn down and am the only one among my household who knows what goes where, and where each piece has been carefully placed.  I wonder if the keys are still among her late husband's things, neatly tucked into small tabletop drawers, screaming to be let out and reunited with their clarinet. 
I always liked the Omega.  Perhaps a small miracle will happen, and the seller will find the keys.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Selmer-CT-Omega-Clarinet-Depose-Paris-France/132516825490?_trkparms=aid%3D888007%26algo%3DDISC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D44039%26meid%3D4f7b3a5661134e7c9695dcf9145d68e4%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D2%26sd%3D292459773951%26itm%3D132516825490&_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982
Oh, boy. What a shame. I bought a Buffet Academy bass clarinet for just $305 once, which seemed like a great deal at the time. It was a complete basket case but I thought all the pieces were there. But, turns out it was missing a single critical key pad cup (low B), and with that, my $305 investment into what I was hoping to be a couple-thousand-dollar sale was wasted.
I did find a Vito bass which I stole the key off of, although it doesn't fit, I'm certain that I can, with enough jury rigging, make it "work", although all resale value is now lost.
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Re: The Honest Seller Thread
« Reply #59 on: March 05, 2018, 10:08:42 PM »
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