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Offline LTrope

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Selling price for a Buffet C. R 13...
« on: September 22, 2019, 07:11:33 PM »
Hi everyone!

I am new to this forum and found it through ClarinetPages.Net  :)

I played clarinet through middle school and high school and was gifted from a friend of a friend a:

Buffet Crampon 150e anniversaries 1825-1975 wooden R13 clarinet.

I am interested in picking it back up, but do not need, what I believe to be, a semi-professional clarinet? I would just be playing for fun.

It needs to be re-padded and I can get that done for about $330.

 I am wondering if anyone can share an estimate on what this clarinet would sell for? I am not sure how to attach a photo on here, but can definitely send a photo to anyone who wants to see it.

Feel free to connect on here (not sure if I receive an email about these posts?) or send me an email at lisa.trope123@gmail.com

Thank you!
Lisa

Offline DaveLeBlanc

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Re: Selling price for a Buffet C. R 13...
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2019, 12:28:57 AM »
I have sold two R13s in the past year - one for $1225 (1960 model) and one for $1330 (1974)
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Re: Selling price for a Buffet C. R 13...
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2019, 09:14:53 AM »
Thank you, Dave!  :) Were both or either of the clarinets recently re-padded or repaired? I am wondering what kind of condition they were in.  Also, do you suggest a good website for selling? Really appreciate the response.

Best,
Lisa

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Re: Selling price for a Buffet C. R 13...
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2019, 10:49:09 AM »
I did a full restore to both of them myself to perfect condition. I was hoping for $1500 but I needed the money quick!

I sold both on eBay. I had them listed on Reverb and Craigslist as well, but no such luck there.
David Watson of the original The Clarinet Pages

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Re: Selling price for a Buffet C. R 13...
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2019, 06:44:07 AM »
Appraisal value of mine, fully restored, 150th Anniversary model was 4500.00 to 5000.00.  Keep it and enjoy it!  They are wonderful instruments!

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Re: Selling price for a Buffet C. R 13...
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2019, 03:22:24 PM »
I hate to do this, but that price seems awfully high. You can buy a brand new Buffet R13 with silver plated keys for that much:
https://www.musiciansfriend.com/woodwinds/buffet-crampon-r13-professional-bb-clarinet-with-silver-plated-keys?rNtt=buffet%20r13&index=4

Here's an Anniversary, unrestored, sold for $560
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1975-150th-Anniversary-Buffet-Crampon-Bb-clarinet-/174031862462?hash=item28851b7abe%3Ag%3AQEUAAOSwxs9dfogX&nma=true&si=Zi%252BiIh9cCXJM%252BjuHZklzMMkSkZk%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Here's an Anniversary (unsold) for $1850
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Buffet-Crampon-R13-Professional-Bb-Clarinet-Anniversary-Model/293092031035?epid=9028302809&hash=item443da57a3b:g:KZkAAOSwIBZc3anr

Here's another (unsold) for $1200
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Buffet-Crampon-R13-Bb-Professional-Clarinet-with-Original-Case/123933530998?hash=item1cdb039b76:g:leMAAOSwmyNdlU~y

The most expensive listing I found, sold or not, is this one for $2250:
https://reverb.com/item/16856385-buffet-crampon-150th-anniversary-model-bb-clarinet-1975

I dont want to knock your appraiser, but in my sales opinion, I feel like $5,000 is quite ambitious.

Stranger things have happened, but I would not hold my breath and except to get $5,000 in a sale.

At the moment, the market, unfortunately, does not appear to be strong enough for R13-style clarinets to regularly trade in the >$1500 range.

Even this guy, who seems to be really good at selling clarinets for higher-than-average prices, let this R13 go for $1200
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Buffet-Crampon-R13-Bb-Wood-Clarinet-NICE-/293252111898?hash=item4447301e1a%3Ag%3A5VsAAOSwAKxWbsGL&nma=true&si=Zi%252BiIh9cCXJM%252BjuHZklzMMkSkZk%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Anyways, sorry for the rant.
David Watson of the original The Clarinet Pages

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Re: Selling price for a Buffet C. R 13...
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2019, 02:06:13 AM »
Presumably it was an insurance appraisal - cost to replace.

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Re: Selling price for a Buffet C. R 13...
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2019, 07:25:49 AM »
That is true.

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Re: Selling price for a Buffet C. R 13...
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2019, 09:04:18 AM »
My point is this....if he is planning on returning to playing, why get rid of a beautiful instrument in trade for something cheaper?  If he decides to continue, he will have an instrument that is a joy to play!  Too many people think that beginners should play crappy instruments!

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Re: Selling price for a Buffet C. R 13...
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2019, 10:32:18 AM »
The way I see it, if you already own a nice instrument, and if you don't desperately need the money, then you should always keep it.

LTrope, it sounds like you spent little, if any money on purchasing the clarinet.

If that's the case, then you may as well keep the darn thing! Having a nice instrument on hand will probably help someone get back into playing or get better at playing. And what better tool to do so than a really nice, premium clarinet.

You don't lose any money by keeping it, and you gain everything instead.

David Watson of the original The Clarinet Pages

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Re: Selling price for a Buffet C. R 13...
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2019, 11:18:22 AM »
AMEN!