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Offline modernicus

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Re: My other C, Eugene Thibouville?
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2019, 07:21:31 PM »
It looks pretty bad in person, though.  I still love it for some reason...  Per dollar value, though, I've found much better deals!  I like my bargains head spinning!  I got an old Conn hard rubber A for around $20 as well.  I paid <$100 for these per clarinet over the last 12 years collecting ( before shipping) :
1850s Buffet Crampon A, enhanced Boehm integrated barrel salt spoon pad cups, astounding condition and craftsmanship! Museum piece!
1860s Auguste Buffet jeune Boehm Bb
1870s Buffet Crampon Boehm Bb integrated barrel
1886 Buffet Crampon unibody Boehm Bb
Early 1900s T. Berteling enhanced Boehm Bb
1920s? H. Chedeville A Boehm, articulated C#/G#
1900s J.T.L. M.R. Verney w/Bercioux mech Bb Boehm
1920s C.G. Conn A, hard rubber Boehm (poor quality keywork)
Late 1800s/1900s Edmond Chedeville C Boehm
Early 1900s Kohlert C Boehm integrated barrel
This ca.1890 Eugene Thibouville C Boehm integrated barrel, dismal condition
ca. 1880 J.T.L. High Pitch Boehm Bb (very poor condition)
1920s Frank Holton Sterling Boehm Bb, solid silver keys, posts
Late 1800s J.T.L. high pitch Albert Bb
Late 1940s Buffet Crampon Bb
?mid 20th century Eric Petterson Stockholm Bb (my all time favorite!)
Late 1800s-early 1900s French made C Boehm (fantastic player!)
Early 1900s Kohlert stencil high pitch Bb Boehm
<$200:
1920s Buescher true tone metal Bb Boehm (superb condition)
1890s-1910s J.T.L. Boehm high pitch Bb model Supreme, concentric ringed flute-style pad cups, screwed on lower pads
ca.1860 Thibouville Buffet Bb Boehm integrated barrel
Around $200+
ca.mid 1900s O. Neurnberger full Boehm Bb(completely destroyed/botched by PO,  my biggest boondoggle!)
1906 Buffet Crampon Eb integrated barrel


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Re: My other C, Eugene Thibouville?
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2019, 11:08:02 PM »
That's absolutely incredible. You sure know how to buy clarinets!

My best scores ever are as follows:
$23 - Buffet E11
$65 - UNIQUE Bottali plateau, simple system, no rollers. Far as I can tell it's one of a kind
$202 - unibody Buffet A clarinet with donut key
$250 or so - Vito contrabass clarinet

I rarely get a massive cherry-pick; at least, not when looking to buy for profits, at least.

Your collection of sub-$100 clarinets just about beats my entire collection, in full. I'm jealous
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Re: My other C, Eugene Thibouville?
« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2019, 01:13:17 PM »
Thanks, fellow collector!  I have an obsessive hawkeye for the auctions...I love these old things for some reason- glad there's a fellow clarinut out there that took the time to even read this list!  I have been thinking recently, what should I do with all these?  The early Boehms, especially, I think are the ones that have any significance, but they're not really worth very much, right? Is anybody interested in looking at these things or anything?  I guess I'll hold on to them for lack of anything else...
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Re: My other C, Eugene Thibouville?
« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2019, 06:09:57 PM »
I've always wondered if museums are in the business of buying historic, antique clarinets. if so, they would probably go nuts over a working example of a 200-year old clarinet.

Depending on how much you got them for, how much you like them, and how much you need money, eBay seems to be the best way to reach a wide audience for these antique instruments. You'll often find you can potentially get surpringsly much for old clarinets
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Re: My other C, Eugene Thibouville?
« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2019, 02:31:56 AM »
While were' on 200 year old clarinets, look at the condition of the wood on this one

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jehring-Boxwood-Bb-Clarinet-c-1800/183862945921?hash=item2acf15e881:g:oPkAAOSwWs9dLKXF

Incredible.  It looks like it's hardly been played - but maybe there's a reason for that.

It's probably not as old as 1800 though.  This one, bearing an identical stamp, is estimated at around 1850 https://collections.ed.ac.uk/mimed/record/16165?highlight=*


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Re: My other C, Eugene Thibouville?
« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2019, 08:56:25 AM »
This era of clarinet is whole 'nother ball of wax that I'm not sure I'm ready for...they've obviously been collectible for a long time as they are markedly different from the current instrument and thus I don't think I have the funds...I had one I bought in a lot of clarinets that I bought and sold.  For this one in particular, my impression is that the flat square keyhead preceded the round.  I would have thought this one would be a bit earlier than 1850, like closer to the turn of the 19th c. , so maybe halfway between the timeframe estimates, but anachronistic clarinets have always been around.  Relatively simple clarinets were still being made 50+ years after the Boehm system was introduced...
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Re: My other C, Eugene Thibouville?
« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2019, 03:06:35 PM »
I'm still almost certain that square keys with uncovered felt pads as a rule always precede the round holes.
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