Harry Pedler & Co./The Pedler Co. Thread

Started by Windsong, April 25, 2017, 06:32:58 PM

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Quote from: Windsong on July 26, 2026, 02:51:35 PMI am wondering if this is Zyloid?
It looks a bit different than what I am accustomed to, but also appears to be phenolic of some sort.
(https://shopgoodwill.com/item/271591422)
I don't think so - it looks like a postwar 58N. I'm reasonably confident those had an Ebonite body (when I get around to servicing the one I have, I'll probably have to level a tonehole and can find out for sure) with plastic barrel and bell.
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Windsong

A handful of breadcrumbs, every blue moon...

This La Premiere Francaise is no more French than I am, but it IS a Harry Pedler.  But we already established that, years ago. It was SilverSorcerer who brought it to our attention.  By the key work, I immediately knew these to be among Harry's revised (very last) original pieces, and for the first time, we now have a legitimate, extremely low serial number to attach to the line.  This serializes nicely with 1930 for the standard Harry Pedler & Co. E-Series (Oops; Did they stamp this one accidentally, or were they finally just allowing La Premiere Francaises (LPFs) to ride the same conveyor belt as the standard production models?
I believe the original, previous key work LPF line started in 1927, and this keywork change probably signifies the beginning of serialization!  Note the sliver key B/F# on the bottom joint.  It is this last, possibly jointly designed key work which appears to have been used briefly after Harry's departure, until Martin could develop all new key work.

The new question, and one I should have been asking all along is: 
At what serial number do we see a change from this key-work to all Martin attire?

When we have an answer to this question, we will be much closer to closing the transitional window, and earnestly attending to claims:

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Jeabrams

#302
I would Like to add to Windsong's list if I may. I have had this instrument for most of the last fifty years - it is a pedler hoosier with full case, badge intact - serial #24555, stamped above the bell solder joint on the back of the instrument 24555 is also stamped into the underside of the F#C# key lever. The bell is engraved " Pedler Hoosier Elkhart Indiana" with Hoosier in larger lettering and the rest in smaller block text. I'll see about posting photos of it shortly....

ghostler

That is a nice Pedler metal clarinet, @Jeabrams.

This year got my feet wet by buying a René Dumont (Paris) metal clarinet. I got it because it was clean with original case, barrel joint and a mouthpiece. Appears possibly to be a low mileage one. Needs pads replaced and a few other touches. This is my first metal one.

I read somewhere that the US military bands of the time pre- to WW2 used metal clarinets.
Clarinetist and Saxist
Clovis NM Community Band member
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Jeabrams

#304
Ghostler,

Fantastic to see a fellow New Mexican in here. Clovis is south of me up here in Edgewood. My Pedler is one of three metal clarinets I have. I have restored a King and a Supertone (sears version of a Cundy-Bettony). The metal ones are very crisp sounding and surprise most people on how rich and full they are... nothing like a large bore wood instrument though.... Thank you and cheers!  Oh and I like it "Christmas" on the huevos! Almost forgot. Bettony produced the Cadet metal clarinets specifically for US military bands. I think othe makers did too though I'm not sure what Pedler may have provided

ghostler

You're welcome, Jeabrams. Once in a while we pass through Edgewood on the way to Albuquerque, a 4 hour drive. There in Edgewood, you escape the sprawling madness that has become of Albuquerque. I remember when we moved to Gallup downturn of aerospace early 1990's, Albuquerque was a nice small city, 2 hours away.

Amarillo (NE), Lubbock (SE), Roswell (S) are all only 95 miles and 2 hours away. If we need to do special shopping, they are our go-to places.

There is another, a saxist who I think also plays clarinet on one of the forums from Santa Fe.
Clarinetist and Saxist
Clovis NM Community Band member
https://cloviscommunityband.com/