Pedler have low value??

Started by LarryS, June 08, 2026, 07:13:18 AM

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LarryS

I received this from sax on the web...

"Older wooden clarinets can have problems innate to their making as they age. It may have been a pro clarinet almost a century ago, but these days I know pros who actually prefer non-wooden clarinets. Pedlers aren't valued at all. I had one and shipped it away for free to someone hoping maybe they could somehow bring it back so a kid could play it. Never heard back"

Hmmm
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ghostler

Quote from: LarryS on June 08, 2026, 07:13:18 AMI received this from sax on the web... "Older wooden clarinets can have problems innate to their making as they age. It may have been a pro clarinet almost a century ago, but these days I know pros who actually prefer non-wooden clarinets. Pedlers aren't valued at all. I had one and shipped it away for free to someone hoping maybe they could somehow bring it back so a kid could play it. Never heard back"
Hmmm
You have to take anything said on "open forums" with a grain of salt. Anyone can join and chime in. A person is entitled to his/her opinion.

The worth of an instrument is accorded to its holder.

If you enjoy your Pedler then what others think means little. Going to sell maybe another matter.

It was probably popular 70 - 80 years ago, but today few hear of them. Ditto goes for the René Dumont Paris metal clarinet and the G. Penzel (Mueller) Pacemaker woody I have. It is why I got 3 Boosey & Hawkes Edgware Grenadilla clarinets for a song along with these 2 others.

I'll probably be called a heretic for saying this. But my own opinion after observing that Artie Shaw, Bennie Goodman and some others for a time played Buffets, is the best jazz clarinet is one that is playing jazz whether narrow bore or wide bore. The performance is in the artist. The clarinet is the brush that one paints the canvas with.

Ditto goes for saxophones.
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LarryS

I detected a touch of superiority/snobbery from the sax bunch. I just got the feeling that I was not welcome there...
You don't stop playing when you get old, you get old when you stop playing.
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ghostler

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Quote from: LarryS on July 26, 2026, 11:30:17 AMI detected a touch of superiority/snobbery from the sax bunch. I just got the feeling that I was not welcome there...
It just takes one sour spoiled apple to ruin the whole bushel basket.

Several years ago I joined ess-oh-tee-double-U, just replied a few things that is common among clarinetists regarding tone, chambering and etc. Instead of being shown counter arguments with say backing links to educate, I was immediate called a liar, troll, RTFM (read the fscking manual), and etc. from over a half dozen posters. Worst was a poster with a female St4r Tr3k B0rg avatar alluding to be a professional saxist. In the old days when a child behaved as such would have his or her mouth washed with soap. Later found "it" was male.

Subsequent multiple close encounter clashes of a "3rd kind" with these *ahem* poseurs, I stopped and deleted all personal profile info. A year later requested account deletion and posts anonymized. The sax site was purchased by a new owner and changes were made to the Moderation Team. I don't know how it is now.

Unfortunately in any forum or social media site with the good will have those who for some reason or another aren't who they say they are. Just a suggestion, but these bothersome personas, I would start flagging them in your profile's "Ignore List". This allows you the option to see what they say or not by clicking "See ignored content". You can later remove them from "Ignore", too.

I did this a couple times and it really does eliminate the unnecessary background chatter, makes reading posts more pleasant.
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DaveLeBlanc

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ghostler

Quote from: DaveLeBlanc on August 05, 2026, 01:54:03 PMThis is why the only resource you should really trust is us right here!
This is understandable. 😂

Recently I rejoined that forum. They are now under a new owner, whose admin team has cleaned it up. The problem children have left.

BTW, it is amazing how many "experts" (who we used to at work call ex-spurts - former drips under pressure.🤪 ) there are.

I found a post here where one was describing a lubricant I used to fix a problem, teflon grease to cure a key mechanism problem. I mentioned the same in another forum not long ago and immediately called a repair heretic.
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Jeabrams

It occurs to me that if you like old instruments and want to keep them sound and functioning properly there not a thing wrong with them! I value my nearly and over 100 year old instruments and appreciate the difference in sound and quality so what ! I also have newer ones and like some qualities they have as well! The age of an instrument is not the point of the exercise - IMHO - it's the music and the personal experience of the music. So what if I like restoring old stuff and bringing them back to life! My shop my preference.... My perspective on what is valuable!

ghostler

I have to agree with you, @Jeabrams. I still have my 1965 LeBlanc Vito Bb soprano clarinet that started me on my woodwind journey in grade school, been overhauled a couple times. Even though student clarinets today like it sell for under $50 including shipping and tax, it still plays. My keeping it is more of a sentimental thing.

Last May, I bought a 1940's G. Penzel (Mueller Germany) Pacemaker Grenadilla wood intermediate clarinet in clean condition for $54 to restore. Last January I bought a René Dumont (Paris) metal Bb soprano clarinet in clean condition for $66 to restore. Bought white leather clarinet pads for the restoration. Although some 80 years old, I consider having these fun.
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