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Title: French Selmer Alto Valuation ??
Post by: Abraxas on November 24, 2020, 11:56:34 PM
I'm lightening my load for a big transnational move. One of the instruments I found in my collection was a 2 piece Alto Clarinet by Selmer. Ebony. It's certainly playable with no noticeable defects. I'm almost toying with keeping it as it has such a nice tone. I asked my local instrument tech for a quote on a repad and set up and he wanted $450 CAD,,, ie about $350 USD. For one who only picks up a soprano once in awhile to do some noodling, I don't think i even deserve this, nor at a cost of $450 to get it into top shape.

When i went on Ebay, I was shocked at what the high end pricing was on these: $4500 !! Some even higher. as it's late at night, I can't retrieve a serial number or other identifying info except it's marked France and I think Depois .. or something like that.

The problem I'm having is that the low end price of these Selmer wooden altos is allso quite low at only one or two hundred dollars.

My dilemma now is I can't, using Ebay, even nail down a market valuation for these as they are wildly all over the place. If I sell this I have no idea what to ask. I also don't know what repads should cost.

What I'm thinking, is to repad this myself or at least make all the adjustments necessarry to get it to play as well as it can with the pads already on it. I'm a certified machinist with a wealth of tools that would make professional instrument shops envious. i do not however have the skills to do this.

What I'm asking here is this: Can you tell me a process or a direction I ought to follow in assessing this horn's fair market value ? Without going to some school, even if I could, how might I get some instruction on doing the adjustments or taking on the task of doing my own repad ?

Thank you so much for your time in replying.

Charlie



Title: Re: French Selmer Alto Valuation ??
Post by: GrumpyMiddleAgedMan on November 25, 2020, 08:15:40 AM
Honestly, there is always YouTube. Of course using the search function here is a good way to learn about specific things.
With tube, you can get a flavor of what you need to do and basics of how to do it. There really isn't a lot involved if you are just changing pads. I would recommended shellac and not glue if you do happen to try yourself.
If you stop and think, most things aren't hard. Making it look good is what takes skill. At least that's my 2 cents.
Title: Re: French Selmer Alto Valuation ??
Post by: Abraxas on November 25, 2020, 06:51:01 PM
I actually tried to do a shellac job using leather pads on a Bundy and it didn't come out so well. Everything looks great but it's not playable. I think what I really need is some instruction on adjustments as much as I do on changing the pads out. I'm still thinking I should perhaps sell this but going back to my first question, how do I get it appraised and what metric do I use. as I said, the prices are WILDLY all over the place on the French Selmer Altos on Ebay. and I do mean W I L D L Y !!!
Title: Re: French Selmer Alto Valuation ??
Post by: Airflyte on November 25, 2020, 07:01:02 PM
French Selmer alto with no defects? 

Put it up on ebay for $2000.00 - as it sits. That would be $1800 in your pocket if it sells.

You never know until you try!
Title: Re: French Selmer Alto Valuation ??
Post by: Abraxas on November 25, 2020, 09:44:29 PM
Trying to post photos here but I can't. There were only 4 at 25K each...not sure what the problem is ?? Is it because I'm a new member ? Anyhow... This near mint Alto says Depose Henri Selmer Paris France. It's in really nice shape with a nice case. No odors or scratches. I'd say near mint. I don't like selling on Ebay as I'm worried about stuff that can happen. I'd rather sell in person so people can test it. I live in London, Canada if you know of anyone near by. I wish the heck I could post photos. i even made a very short video of me playing the C scale and that's about all I'm capable of. It was sold by the Gov of Canada as they shut down a military band. Would a serial number help ?
Title: Re: French Selmer Alto Valuation ??
Post by: DaveLeBlanc on December 16, 2020, 07:18:22 PM
Hey there, sent you a direct email. I can restore and help you sell the clarinet. Larger clarinets are something of a speciality of mine.

I think $25k is rather ambitious, that is way too expensive for any alto, even a brand new Selmer won't run you that much.
Title: Re: French Selmer Alto Valuation ??
Post by: Abraxas on December 17, 2020, 07:10:08 AM
Too funny... I was referring to the size of the photos in KBs. I have a great tech here in town, priced in CAD. I don't honestly know what if anything this instrument will need and until I get a leak light I won't be worrying about it. Thanks for your offer though.
Title: Re: French Selmer Alto Valuation ??
Post by: Abraxas on December 17, 2020, 07:13:10 AM
Dave perhaps you can help me in posting photos though per my previous post ?
Title: Re: French Selmer Alto Valuation ??
Post by: DaveLeBlanc on December 19, 2020, 02:28:40 PM
oh, haha totally misread your post LOL

please send any images to me directly via email at daveleblanc@clarinetpages.net and I'll post them here for ya
Title: Re: French Selmer Alto Valuation ??
Post by: Abraxas on December 19, 2020, 07:44:51 PM
Is the photo function not working on this board ?
Title: Re: French Selmer Alto Valuation ??
Post by: DaveLeBlanc on December 22, 2020, 10:31:40 PM
Is the photo function not working on this board ?
Last i checked everything works, we even removed the image size limit.

Try resizing your images to 1MB or less, to see if that works.  If not, pls send me an email with pics and I'll make them show up
Title: Re: French Selmer Alto Valuation ??
Post by: Abraxas on December 23, 2020, 05:18:25 AM
Perhaps you can talk me through the photo posting process ? I click on Insert Image and then what ? Put the whole path to the photo in between the tags ? I was hoping for a Browse Computer function where I could pick them off. Also, is this one photo per post ? Should I be using the Attach function below instead ??
Title: Re: French Selmer Alto Valuation ??
Post by: DaveLeBlanc on December 25, 2020, 05:08:06 PM
To attach photos:

below the text box, click "attachments and other options"
click the "browse" button
--this allows you to browse your computer and upload images
if you need more attachments, click "more attachments" under the "browse" button
click "post"
--depending on the number and size of attachments it may take a few minutes to for the post to go through
Title: Re: French Selmer Alto Valuation ??
Post by: Abraxas on December 25, 2020, 06:05:40 PM
Once again this isn't working. "The attachments upload directory is not writable". I'll just post the link to the Ebay ad, although I probably would have preferred to sell it here and split the fees with a buyer. https://www.ebay.com/itm/REDUCED-Selmer-Paris-Depose-Alto-Clarinet/224260675929?hash=item3436fa5959:g:aIQAAOSwoJBfxwAV
Title: Re: French Selmer Alto Valuation ??
Post by: DaveLeBlanc on December 25, 2020, 10:15:55 PM
Sorry about that. It does appear that we are having an issue with the forum software. I'll see if I can fix it.
Title: Re: French Selmer Alto Valuation ??
Post by: Abraxas on January 09, 2021, 11:55:15 AM
Some photos..
Title: Re: French Selmer Alto Valuation ??
Post by: Abraxas on January 09, 2021, 11:57:51 AM
More photos
Title: Re: French Selmer Alto Valuation ??
Post by: DaveLeBlanc on January 17, 2021, 12:05:43 PM
Clarinet looks in great shape. I would agree that $2k is a good starting point.
Title: Re: French Selmer Alto Valuation ??
Post by: Abraxas on January 17, 2021, 12:37:11 PM
Well I just dropped it down to $1800 on Feebay. Maybe I should put the price back up. Yrs it's in mint condition except I think the pads need redoing.
Title: Re: French Selmer Alto Valuation ??
Post by: Abraxas on January 18, 2021, 06:08:54 AM
Got a counter offer of $1600. I'm thinking of coming back with another of $1700. That would be less 10% that is Ebay's cut. I can really use the money, let me tell you.
Title: Re: French Selmer Alto Valuation ??
Post by: DaveLeBlanc on January 18, 2021, 02:44:05 PM
I mean, in my experience you could wait another several months to get the price you want, or just go for it now

Dave's Law: given enough time, you will always get the price you want.
Title: Re: French Selmer Alto Valuation ??
Post by: Abraxas on January 18, 2021, 06:42:06 PM
Discovered a small crack in a tenon. Revealed to buyer. Says it's ok with a discount $1500. Hope to send this out this week