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Messages - DaveLeBlanc

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All about Clarinets / Re: NEWBIE REPAIR QUERY
« on: February 28, 2021, 08:20:08 PM »
I would always get thicker rather than thinner corks. You can always sand down thick corks; if you get ones that are too thin you're basically screwed.

Looks nice and clean. If it plays, then probably like $250-300?

Yes, I will start a new topic by repeating some if this info.

More "playable" than the alto clarinet? No, it's a different animal entirely. My Vito alto sounds a lot closer to a bass cl. And, it fits my hands very well and takes an alto sax reed. This G horn sounds much closer to a Bb or A. It takes a standard Bb mouthpiece. But surprisingly, the bore is small, relative to typical Bb cl. That gives it tonal character all its own. And, the problem of matching a MP to its "energy" i.e. impedence. I think the small bore indicates German design and the Germans do produce many of the Albert system G clarinets. It's fair to assume the maker uses the same body for this as they do for the Albert they make.

Dave, with hands smaller than men's glove-size Large, I would not recommend this horn. It could be re-designed with some plateau keys I suppose, but it's only popular for Turkish/Greek music and they are focused on Albert system. It will be interesting to see how long it takes the designer and maker to make THIS design better.
It's very embarassing, but I have to shop for gloves at the local Asian stores; their size Large is US size Xtra Small....

All about Clarinets / Re: NEWBIE REPAIR QUERY
« on: February 23, 2021, 10:02:42 PM »
I would recommend MusicMedic tenon corks. They're like a buck a piece and are pretty decent. Quality control is lackluster, but MM is pretty good at replacing poor materials.

I've been using their corks for years now and have had great results.

My major recommendation, which I learned from Phil, is to wrap the corks in teflon plumber's tape (a buck or so at a hardware store). This keeps things clean (NO cork grease) and is a really effective way at getting the corks to slid right in to the joint.

All about Clarinets / Re: Please help me check the clarinetpages.xxx site
« on: February 23, 2021, 10:01:02 PM »
update: I use Firefox and all three domains work just fine.

Hello Pedler people,

Today I bought Pedler clarinet P6618 at an estate sale.  I think the case is not original.  I'm a total newbie.  How do I tell if the pads are still good?  The keys seem to mechanically work ok.  Does this horn need to be re-furbished?  I'm gonna try to attach some pictures.

This is going to sound stupid, but the easiest way to tell if pads are good is to put a reed on and blow into it...

All about Clarinets / Re: Comparing my Yamaha 4C with a Noblet 2V
« on: February 21, 2021, 12:25:46 AM »
You sound better on the Yamaha that you're used to.   

When this Covid thing is out of the way I'd love to go up there and help sort your embouchure out (where are you? Sunderland, I seem to recall).  I'm sure it would be much easier face to face.

Off topic, but I've always wanted to hold a ClarinetPages Convention - a meeting/hangout of all the active members on this forum. I've been helping run this place for like 9 or so years and I have yet to meet any of you fine folks.

Once COVID is over - maybe ClarinetPages could set up a booth at a national music convention. Or make our own little event.

Thoughts? I feel like it would be a pretty incredible weekend or so with America's most dedicated (and Canada!) clarinet enthusiasts.

Maybe in a year or two when this darn plague is over.

All about Clarinets / Re: Double boehm system
« on: February 21, 2021, 12:22:08 AM »
It's a really good system but I think would be hard to learn.  No other woodwind I know of has anything similar.

That sentiment reminds me of the infamous McIntyre system. It was hard to learn, unwieldy, and unlike anything else in the world at the time.

The idea was sound - create a key system with perfect-pitched throat tones.

Execution was superb - high quality Thibouville construction led to great instruments.

Result - a top-heavy, hard to learn, and unintuitive experiment that died in 2 years.

I am convinced that if people gave the McIntyre Bros a chance it could have been something incredible. Imagine - an articulated (central C#/G#) clarinet with McIntyre throat-tones, and maybe even a touch of Mazzeo.

Clarinets could have evolved into another dimension. Unfortunately, modern clarinets (all of them! far as I can tell) are constrained by 200+ year old conventions that really constrict the musical dimension.

The only modifications we can find in common, modern productions clarinets is the Schrieber - I believe they produce a side register key. Amazing.

Beautiful. Would you believe that I actually THREW AWAY a broken mouthpiece about a decade ago because I deemed it "irreparable." It was the original mouthpiece (far as I could tell) to an ultra-rare Bottali plateau metal clarinet.
I was a dumb kid.

All about Clarinets / Re: Hard rubber conditioner
« on: February 21, 2021, 12:16:04 AM »
I hope your mouthpiece was not too valuable.

Although discoloration of HR does NOT damage playability, tone, or any physical qualities, it makes it look rather ugly and unattractive.

We all learn the hard way. I am saddened, but also happy that you have learned your lesson. I learned it HARD with that lovely Silver Throat and am extremely careful when bringing HR near any alcohol these days.

School of Hard Knocks!

Help and info about other instruments / Re: J Horn anyone?
« on: February 21, 2021, 12:14:41 AM »
I have experience with the Nuvo Clarineo - a plastic C clarinet.

For like $100, it's a decent C clarinet. Unfortunately, the thumb rest is AWFUL and really detracts from it. Cut it off and you're in business.

I also do NOT like the Nuvo's key system. It's like a sort of modified Albert-esque system that is confusing, small, and unintuitive to use.

If you are are simply too cash-strapped to spend $250 for a Chinese plastic C, then I guess you can go with Nuvo Clarineo.

IDK about the other Nuvo products, but I suppose they are considered the "last option" for anybody even marginally serious about playing.

All about Clarinets / Re: Double boehm system
« on: February 17, 2021, 11:29:32 PM »
Honestly looks identical to a regular Boehm except for the plateau'd first key.

Seems like it doesn't do much for you except give you that little pinhole on the first pad, a la bass clarinet.

All about Clarinets / Re: Hard rubber conditioner
« on: February 17, 2021, 11:28:15 PM »
I was cleaning my new/old HR mouthpiece with a dettol antibacterial cloth, which after cleaning was yellow, which I wasn't expecting. I also cleaned the inside with a cotton bud (Q tip) coated with alcohol based hand gel and it too turned yellow.


Alcohol will ruin Hard Rubber in a heartbeat. I learned that the hard way by turning a nice HR silver throat's bell into a sickly greenish yellow.

To clean hr, I would go with mild soap and COLD water. Warm water will also discolor it. It's a very fickle mistress.

All about Clarinets / Re: Please help me check the clarinetpages.xxx site
« on: February 13, 2021, 02:15:34 PM »

ALL redirect me to this site address:

Works on my Windows 10 PC.

Neat! That's an Albert system with plateau keys. You don't see those around very much at all.

A real shame about the lower keys though. Someone tore those off with great force!

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