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Make and Model lists and research / Pruefer
« on: April 01, 2021, 04:35:54 PM »
Might as well start a new thread.
I picked up a 2(4) piece plastic Pruefer festival model.  I know the serial number lists on the net are all numeric.  Problem i have is that the serial on this one starts with an e and as such i cant really nail down a production year.  E01294, the thing looks like brand new, i mean very light scratching and everything is shinny(only one broken needle spring).  Bell is stamped BD of ED NYC ESEA #1.  So it seems to be a school instrument out of the NYC school system which seems to have seen little to no service.  My best guess as far as the age, I am going to guess somewhere maybe late 60's the earliest to somewhere in the mid 70's.
Does anyone have any filler info they could supply?

All about Clarinets / Harwood LP A
« on: April 01, 2021, 03:52:35 PM »
Picked up a Harwood Professional, didn't notice but it was an A key.  It is in ok shape, going to need standard tune up.  Probably paid too much for it but its something new for me.
Register is a top side, bell marked in circle harwood professional j.w.j.s.m.co under which is made in czechq-slovakia and what im guessing is the serial # 1368 or there abouts.  Don't see any other markings on the body other than  A LP, and barrel is marked with the makers mark in circle.  Wood is fairly light, doesn't seem to be stained too dark, and IMO the grain isn't too dense.  Has the feel and look more of a student instrument than a professional.  Bell is stuck right now but that will be taken care of and some of the rings are loose, also will be taken care of.  Came with a chipped MP which was dried out which was stuck as well.  It looks  like it was hanging in a window or something by the driedoutness of the MP rubber.  Minimal rust and discoloration of keywork so I'm guessing it is not too old.
Is this a stencil?  I am not sure.  Kind of interested if anyone has heard of them, quality of instrument, desirability etc. If anyone could give me a hand with basic info I would be most appreciative.

I own 2 different tumblers for reloading. The vibratory one is good but you have more options with the rotary tumbler. Namely you can use water and soap with stainless steel pins. Generally I use walnut hulls for first cleaning to get the grime off. Then i run it through corn cob media to polish it up. They make things you can add to the media to help cleaning and polishing but those are optional. The water with steel pins is supposed to get onto the crevices better than the dry media, I have a 5 lb bag of pins that came with the tumbler but haven't tried it out yet. Generally 3-4 hours is enough to get the brass pretty clean.
You don't need a lot but I found the cheapest way to buy media is through Grainger. They se it by the 50 lb bag in different sizes(size of grains).

All about Clarinets / Re: Hard rubber conditioner
« on: January 11, 2021, 05:48:22 PM »
Thank you for picking the fly specks out of my sugar bowl. Do as you like.

All about Clarinets / Re: Hard rubber conditioner
« on: January 11, 2021, 01:24:43 AM »
No, I didn't take any pics of the damage I did to it after I donked it up.  I can try to describe it.
Problem was after washing it with the hot water and soap was the outside was dry, you could feel and see it. It had a kind of crackle look. It wasn't so much a discoloration as it was a drying of the rubber. I'll put received condition and current pics when I can take a new one.
I did try dying a pruefer I have, it must have been in a window or something with the case open because it is on one side. Tried calligraphy ink but it didn't penetrate, water based. I don't think sharpie worked either.

All about Clarinets / Re: Hard rubber conditioner
« on: January 10, 2021, 10:04:54 PM »
Dictionary, any substance used in or resulting from a reaction involving changes to atoms or molecules, esp one derived artificially for practical use .
So technically you would be correct.  It is formed naturally then separated by other means. The base is still created by a natural process as opposed to being say combined in a test tube. In a common sense usage I would not consider it to be on the same level as say cyanide or Ammonia. I would think most people associate chemicals with harmful substances. Vegetable glycerine, unless you are allergic to the source plant, is basically harmless. It is not a bi-product so much but an adative to moisturizes, soaps, beauty products, food etc.
I would.think this would be a preferable option to the previously mentioned MG Chemicals 408A or something else of that sort.

All about Clarinets / Re: Hard rubber conditioner
« on: January 10, 2021, 10:13:58 AM »
OK, I was wrong about it being plant sap, I didn't exactly look into what I was just took that I was reading at face value. Its not exactly a chemical either.
"Glycerin is a sugar alcohol derived from animal products, plants or petroleum.
Vegetable glycerin is the variant made from plant oils. It is said to have been accidentally discovered more than two centuries ago by heating a mixture of olive oil and lead monoxide."
It is relatively safe from what I read here and it did do what I needed it to do in this case.

All about Clarinets / Re: Tenon Cork Recommendations ?
« on: January 07, 2021, 04:17:54 PM »
Personally, don't look at me funny, I use pliers opened up and a wire brush after to get the last flecks. Yes I saw it on YouTube and honestly it works well. I tried a razor and that was just a pain.

Found the video I watched. The cork replacement is more towards the end.

All about Clarinets / Re: Tenon Cork Recommendations ?
« on: January 06, 2021, 06:30:16 PM »
I bought 2 of each sheet as well. Like you said, it is good for the money. If it does what it needs to do it doesn't have to look pretty.
I picked up some 3 mil cork from somewhere else also. I want to see if I can make my own pads out of it.

All about Clarinets / Re: Hard rubber conditioner
« on: January 06, 2021, 06:28:10 PM »
I made a big booboo when I was messng with a conn director. I washed it in hot water with soap, water was foul smelling and brown after from the sulfer. Needless to say it dried out the outter layer, it was dry and slightly crackled.
I looked online for restoration solutions but didn't really find much but recommendations. One involves using glycerine. So I put on a nice thick slathering of vegetable glycerine and hit it with a heatgun to open up any pores there might be. Nothing too hot just a good warming up. It seems to have rehydrated the outside layer and reversed some of the damage.
When I think about it, it makes some sense. Glycerine is basically vegetable sap, and rubber is tree sap. At the very least it seems to serve as some sort of protection. I think it is also more preferably solution than using chemicals.

All about Clarinets / Re: Tenon Cork Recommendations ?
« on: December 26, 2020, 11:52:43 AM »
If you want to go cheap you can always hit eBay too. You can pick up pre cut cork pretty cheap. If you are just replacing anything but the bottom bell cork it is usually sufficient size. Its relatively cheap about 3 to 4 bucks for 10 strips 80mm x 11 mm. Its not the best cork but it is good enough usually.
Music medic has some lower grade clearance cork right now too.

Trading Post / Re: Interesting auctions
« on: December 23, 2020, 10:49:15 AM »
I know this one isn't a clarinet, its a sax I guess. It looks to be a CSO at a glance, the price on this one is up there.


Trading Post / Re: Interesting auctions
« on: December 22, 2020, 02:39:11 PM »
Occasionally I see penzels come through the auction block. This one I bid on but checked out before it topped out. I am not too sure how rare 7 ring setup is.

Trading Post / Re: Interesting auctions
« on: December 22, 2020, 08:39:53 AM »
No, you can't really know the condition of said instrument just from looking at a picture. But you can pick up on major and even minor defects and some damage. Of course there is risk reward, sometimes you may never find another one again.
The thing about auctions is that you can pick up, a clarinet in this case, for a third or less than what retail would be. If you want to have someone repad it etc that is extra cost. But of course if you want to repair yourself, the cost is relatively minor, just an investment of time. Naturally there is a small investment in basic tools to do the job.
The other side to an auction is money and rarity. There are some instruments that either you just won't find in retail or even specialty that you may desire.  Generally something that is 100+ years old isn't carried at guitar center. As with anything this is a bit more niche.  You can repair and resale of course, that is the money side. How many students need band equipment? Most will never be serious players so a plastic Yamaha, Vito, Jupiter, artley etc will more than suit them. Buffet, selmer and the like make some good sticks but everything doesn't revolve around them. People want what they want, some people are willing to put out good money for something like a 444 or say a boosey 1010. There is nothing wrong with something old if it still does what it was intended to do.
* of course I just do it for fun.

Make and Model lists and research / Re: Jupiter clarinets
« on: December 19, 2020, 05:20:26 PM »
No, I don't think they are anything special either. I was looking at them in auctions and in general. I can't seem to find any sort of guide or list breaking down the models and the key features/differences. Student line of instruments for sure, but couldn't hurt to gather some basic information on them. I wouldnt waste a whole lot of time looking into it but I'm sure there is someone who is knowledgeable in the area.  It warrants at least a descending list of models I would think.

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