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All about Clarinets / Re: 30 dollar train wreck
« on: November 24, 2020, 10:18:23 PM »
Its  penzel, I'm trying to revive it. To bottom joint is in good shape, the top joint as seen here, is a little rough. It absorbed roughly 12-14 ml of bore oil so far. It was really dry but seems to be almost rehydrated.
This has been a learning experience.
 My next trick is going to be finding or making the missing key.
I haven't been out to a bar in years  :(     

All about Clarinets / Re: 30 dollar train wreck
« on: November 24, 2020, 04:41:14 PM »
When looking at bores, what is acceptable for condition. I mean ideally a mirror smooth bore with zero holes/deviations or grain separation is the target.
I was shining the bore and noticed it was a little rough looking. I am guessing this is from not being properly maintained, swabbing drying etc. Or just cumulative use over many decades.
I am wondering about the condition, will it have a  negatively impact its sound based on just looking at the pictures. Is it even viable to be put into play?
I don't think there is any real way to repair bore pitting is there?
These are the best pics I was able to get.

Make and Model lists and research / Re: Silver Penzel Mueller Clari-Met
« on: November 13, 2020, 03:50:17 PM »
For its age it looks to be in excellent shape, I can't see any dings other then the small gauge in the barrel logo and the bottom key cup looks a little rough. From my understanding is that as far as quality goes it is if not thee best, it is ranked top 5 metals ever made. It should clean up nicely.
I have heard that if they are damaged and you need to get it repaired, it is going to cost you. I would recommend being gently with it.

All about Clarinets / Re: Free sheet music?
« on: November 13, 2020, 03:40:32 PM »
There are some places I've seen that give you a taste but charge for the rest. I have found a few places that have some selection of more popular free stuff. You can try:

This place has some freebies but if you want to shell out about 50 bucks or so it seems you can get a ton of sheet music. 4 CDs full.

All about Clarinets / Similarities
« on: November 04, 2020, 10:50:22 AM »
Shape of the instrument is pretty much universal, placement of register can vary a little.
What I am looking at is similarities in engravings in particular. The stars on the metal horns are a common theme that I see. I noticed that the shield on the Stanton and gloritone are fairly similar as well. Could this mean that many of the metal horns are stenciled from a common source and engraved for particular companies?  Also the way the barrel fits onto it is not always the same as barrel shape and adaptation.
Common Couesnon thiboville sml all made stencils as well as many others.
Just wondering.

All about Clarinets / Re: 30 dollar train wreck
« on: October 22, 2020, 05:02:09 PM »
Let me run this by you first. I don't know how stupid this sounds.
Would I be able to plate it myself with solder?  I could flux and flow it on sections that are missing and sand it down and blend it in. I have a few spots that have some actual divits, must have gotten gauged by something.
Would this look ridiculous?  I don't think it would hurt the resale at this point.

All about Clarinets / Re: Arts and crafts projects
« on: October 20, 2020, 06:26:47 PM »
Am I being a penny pincher or do pivot screws cost a lot?  Did I waste my time making one out of brass?  I didn't have any 1/8 steel stock so I used brass. I don't know if it going to be good in the long run because if it gets stuck inside the threads it might strip out easier then steel. Ifnit gets stuck this way I can't dissolve it and pretty much 'screw' up the post. Am I being unrealistic? 
I tried to recreate it as close as I was able to, I think it is close enough as it threads into the post. Its not too lose either.

All about Clarinets / Re: 30 dollar train wreck
« on: October 16, 2020, 11:38:46 PM »
Good thing I'm not being paid by the hour, I don't think I could justify the bill  :-\ .  I managed to get the inside posts out and hit it with some alum. So far I had to punch out 4 of the screw pins once I cut the keys. I tried heat and wd40 but it didn't get into it.
Does anyone have experience with replating keys?  The keywork is missing a fair percemtage of its plating. Either doing it yourself with some system or I'm pretty sure its more professional to send them out to a shop to have it done. I know there is a do it yourself electroplate kit and a wipe on solution but are thin at best.

All about Clarinets / 30 dollar train wreck
« on: October 15, 2020, 07:47:38 PM »
On so here it goes.
I picked up a kind of rough looking piece of wood with some keys attached to it. It was a little more run down than I thought. It came with the bell but no barrel so no biggie. I was kind of figuring on just using it for parts even though it was missing the lower b-f key.  What kind of surprised was that I can't find any cracks in the wood, nothing that would be considered a crack as opposed to grain.
With that in mind I figured I might as well have a go at saving it. I've had to cut 5 of the screws that were really stuck and stripped the whole body of posts. Only problem is I broke the threaded bit of the right pinky levers (b c)in the inside post.  What I need a little help with is can I unscrew those inside posts or am I going to have to get the threads out some other way?

All about Clarinets / Re: Case linings
« on: October 11, 2020, 08:07:42 PM »
I grabbed some cotton velvet off eBay. Wasn't too pleased with the thickness of the material but it still looks nice and has some softness/padding to it. I also do like the older style cases. Does anyone else redo their interiors?
I like the run down beat up look of the exterior to give it a sort of providence. When you open it there is something that looks good and taken care of.

All about Clarinets / Re: Barely legable serial numbers
« on: October 11, 2020, 07:59:45 PM »
That is a good idea. I'm going to be taking the less invasive approach for now.
I realize this is a subjective question but what consider historically valuable?  Obviously small production and very old instruments in good condition would apply. Certain brands maybe?  Special models?

All about Clarinets / Re: Barely legable serial numbers
« on: October 05, 2020, 04:39:09 PM »
That is along the lines of what I was thinking. The problem I have in particular is that the imprint is extremely light and hard to read. I could write it down and leave it as is. My only concern is if it does eventually come to the point where it is completely illegible. I wouldn't want to make it look like its a fake or anything.

All about Clarinets / Barely legable serial numbers
« on: October 05, 2020, 12:03:37 PM »
OK so as an instrument gains age through usage it wears in certain areas more then others. What I am wondering is if the serial number on said instrument is either worn down or was never imprinted too well, if it is advisable to try to deepen or restrike it.
I am of the opinion of not touching it. I don't know if it would effect any value it has or any other consequences that may come from doing such a thing.
Am I correct to be cautious?

For anyone who cares.
Doesn't seem to be a hot topic but I put it back into shape.
Had to make a new tenon ring, not detailed yet but it fits. Key work quality seems pretty weak. Soft metal, some of it was either scratched or just poor casting. The cups are deep, I had to shim out a few pads. It has a .585" inside bore. Was a crack at the top of the bottom joint went through to barrel and extended to first tone hole and an outside crack closer to bottom. Fixed those as well as bell cracks and a little chipping at exterior center tenon. There are a few shop markings on the tenons and two of the keys with numeral ten on them. It is stamped made in France at the top so I am going to assume it was made there somewhere. It plays alright after going through a few mouthpieces and pulling the barrel about 2.5 mm. I'm guessing the age is fairly new. The needle springs are the thicker stainless and the leafs are pretty rust free and on the beefier side.

Make and Model lists and research / Linton, where did it come from?
« on: September 21, 2020, 07:18:42 PM »
OK so following on the success of my last post......
I have had in my possession for the past few weeks(in my garage hiding it from the wife) a Linton horn. I had read a little that they were made by various manufacturers. Don't know if I have that right or not. I did a quick search here and it didn't turn up much except that it may have a barrel insert. Wasn't really expecting that but I looked and to my surprise it was. It has a small bore 14.75.
The instrument itself looks barely used. Only problem i had was the bottom of the mouthpiece (3/8" abouts) had broken off in the barrel. I pulled it out and abs cemented it back on the mp. I doubt I'm going to use it but hey whatever. Funny, pads hardly looked used, some don't even have hole impressions. Seating of the pads looks horrible if indication of the impressions on the pads them self loon unbalanced. Otherwise everything looks to be sound.
Question is who made it, if not Linton, and what sort of time frame am i looking at. Malerne, sml?
Serial reads 10w 12847

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