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Messages - DaveLeBlanc

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Brilliant, as always. Thanks for this Phil!

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All about Clarinets / Re: McIntyre Clarinet
« on: October 26, 2021, 08:24:56 AM »
If you got those McIntyres from a guy in South Carolina, then they were from a large batch of old stock that, to my knowledge, was never sold. At some point after 1958 or whenever McIntyre went bust, somebody bought their entire inventory and dumped them in storage in a South Carolina storage facility. In 2020, a storage wars type of guy managed to buy the storage locker and stumbled upon the gold mind of McIntyres.

They don't have serials because, I suspect, they hadn't made it that far in production.

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All about Clarinets / Re: Tarogato Discussion
« on: October 17, 2021, 06:01:20 PM »
I would love to hear your thoughts on if the taragato is a "conical clarinet" or a "wooden saxophone."

I feel like although the keywork is very Albert, the sound and playing style fits more of what you hear from the soprano saxophonists.

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All about Clarinets / Re: Tarogato Discussion
« on: October 14, 2021, 01:09:24 PM »
It's a pretty neat instrument, but hard to find and expensive in America.

I've never held one, but I would say that it more closely resembles a conical clarinet than a saxophone, specifically due to the Albert-esque key system, which is different enough from the standard saxophone key system.

I have played in a band at UCLA (on contra-alto), which specialized in the most obscure instruments possible; we never had a taragato in our group.

I would very much like to own one, but I don't play enough and am not that dedicated of a collector (anymore) to justify it.

In America, on the rare occassions it's played, it appears to be played more like a saxophone in terms of play style. It also has a more soprano-sax-ish tone to it, but a clarinet timbre, if that makes sense.

Here's a nice relaxing jazz session:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQpG4ynzbzA

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Trading Post / Re: Good stuff on ebay
« on: October 13, 2021, 08:10:03 AM »
Also, in regards to that stash of McIntyres - I actually had a good phone call with the seller who was asking for some advice when he first found them.

He basically is a Storage Wars type of guy and won a storage locker at some place in South Carolina. Inside were apparently several hundred musical instruments, including apparently dozens of brand new/new old stock McIntyre Bb clarinets of various denominations.

It appears that McIntyre sold their inventory when they went bust, someone bought it all up, and left it to languish in storage along with dozens of other random instruments of all types.

He offered to let me come visit and check things out, but that was deep in COVID-time, and I declined. Should have gone anyways, that story could have made a great documentary.

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I don't see why you wouldn't be able to transpose, in theory. In practice, you'd probably need to have some skills that I don't have to transpose on the fly.

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In all likelihood, that's an early one made under Pedler ownership.

When the Pedler metal clarinet was introduced in 1927, the only two models available were "Professional" and "Student".

Thank you very much for providing more information on my clarinet. Do you have any idea what it might be valued at or where I might start as far as pricing it? I have not been able to find any similar HP sales to compare it to.

Again, thank you.

Value won't be too high. As a "Student" is naturally worth less than if it was not a "Student."

Metal clarinet market is good as dead, though I suspect you might be able to sell it for about $100 since it appears to be in very good condition.

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I feel like if you want to make real money, the market is in the REPAIR of saxophones, not necessarily the RESELL.

Pros will pay thousands for a good sax tech. Vintage saxophones are also as a rule worth more than a comparable clarinet, but there are very few deals to be found with saxes, in my experience.

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Good point, very possible that high quality, cheap chinese instruments are killing the market.

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I’ve sold one. Very little interest.  No idea why.


My Etsy listings expire soon and I plan to move them to Reverb and maybe a few to Ebay.


I’ve been toying with the idea of posting a video of each instruments tuner analysis in the listing. But have reservations because beginners wouldn’t understand and experienced players could detect the tuning by ear.  Your thoughts on this idea?

I've done some youtube videos along with listings and most of them have comments ragging on my poor playing skills! Haha. It takes a few minutes and never hurts to demonstrate playing ability of something you're trying to sell.

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Ken, hope the sales business is going well. I haven't sold a clarinet in many months, despite being priced at a loss. Wonder why.

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All about Clarinets / Re: Extra key - Penzel Muller Artist
« on: September 13, 2021, 10:39:43 AM »
The mechanism is for fork (1+3) Eb/Bb rather than a correction key for the long (1+1) Eb/Bb.  i.e. a fingering that is not available without it.

It may or may not improve the long Eb/Bb in the lower register which is the one that is always horribly sharp.  The upper register long Bb is normally perfectly acceptable tuning wise.
Oops, thanks for the correction!!

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All about Clarinets / Re: Extra key - Penzel Muller Artist
« on: September 12, 2021, 12:38:10 PM »
so it is, for better tuning in the upper register
Claus

Correct, that's the idea anyways. Whether or not that little correction key does all that much is a matter of debate. The way I see it - if the correction key was so crucial to good intonation, everything would have it. As it is, the vast majority of professional-level clarinets keep it simple with the standard, non-fancy Boehm system.

As we say in America, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"

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All about Clarinets / Re: Extra key - Penzel Muller Artist
« on: September 11, 2021, 10:14:50 PM »
These are cool, but I don't think they're at all necessary. In the grand scheme of things, just another pad to need to seat and that can get out of adjustment.

Technically it helps keep the Eb/Bb in *slightly* better tune, but the meager gain isn't really all that noticeable. Cool to have, though.

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Trading Post / Re: Good stuff on ebay
« on: September 06, 2021, 10:48:16 AM »
I've heard of them. Far as I know, it was an attempt to even out the intonation on the throat-tone keys. Seems like everybody wants to try to fix those notes, and we inevitably get back to the good old fashioned regular boehm.

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