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All about Clarinets / Re: Jeffrey Clarinet
« Last post by mechanic on April 06, 2022, 03:23:11 PM »
There is some debate over whether it is an entry level or intermediate level wood clarinet, but most agree that they play like an intermediate level.  They were made by LeBlanc and at least a couple members on here have them and love them.

All about Clarinets / Re: Jeffrey Clarinet
« Last post by DaveLeBlanc on April 06, 2022, 09:35:44 AM »
That clarinet certainly went a long way from home
All about Clarinets / Jeffrey Clarinet
« Last post by Andrekohmann on April 06, 2022, 07:42:50 AM »
Hi everyone.
I have recently acquired in Rio de Janeiro/Brazil a Jeffrey Wood clarinet, serial number 8912, made in France. Does anyone here know anything about this Brand? It seems hard to find info about it.
Yes, it has a Buffet formatted serial number that matches the era and seems to closely correspond with the number stamped on the body- it has a "98"on the body and the serial suggests an 1897 manufacture date.
Modernicus,  your Evette Shaffer clarinet looks beautiful!  Does yours also have the Buffet style serial number stamped on it?  I would need to dig mine out of storage, but if I recall it was stamped with a Buffet style serial number that dated mine to I believe 1899.  Otherwise the markings appear to be identical to the markings on mine.  I always wanted to find a Buffet integrated barrel clarinet from the same period to compare the key work to prove conclusively that it was produced in the Buffet factory, but at the time was unable to come up with a Buffet model with the integrated barrel. 

I agree to a degree the integrated barrel clarinets had some issues, especially with cracks in the upper end, but I would also say that my Martel Freres example with integrated barrel dated roughly 1900, exhibited some very interesting characteristics in regards to the bore of the clarinet.  I think a lot of experimentation was done, especially with bore in these early integrated barrel clarinets, that later made much nicer sounding clarinets by 1915 in mass produced models.  From what little information I could find on the Martel Brothers, their clarinets were of the highest quality, very few were produced, and each was played and hand tuned in their shop before leaving by the brothers themselves.  I am a firm believer that whether it was an integrated barrel or standard barrel, the sound and playability had as much to do with the manufacture and care that was put into the building of the clarinet.  I think even by 1900 there were very few of the small manufacturers like the Martel Brothers & Drausin Laube that had not gone the route of mass production of instruments. I also believe that once this shift was made to mass production the quality of clarinets dropped exponentially. I was very lucky to have found my Martel Brothers & Drausin Laube clarinets, which both happen to be integrated barrel, the Martel in Bb & the Laube in C.  Ironically, I purchased both of these clarinets in France, and both date to the late 1890's to early 1900's.  The Laube was probably made in the last year or two before he retired from instrument building and sold his business to Ferdinad Chaplain (who unfortunately was mass producing clarinets for the American market under various names, and did use the Laube name on mass produced clarinets).  I think the last clarinets that were made by the Martel Brothers themselves were built somewhere between 1910 -1915 before they both had retired or died.  My research was very sketchy as to what happened to the Martel Brothers shop after the 2nd brother died, but guessing it was purchased by another builder, though to my knowledge no clarinets were ever mass produced bearing the Martel Freres name on them.

       Granted, these integrated barrel clarinets are probably not ever going to be widely played in orchestra's today, but when one looks very closely at them and really studies them, it becomes more apparent the experimentation that the makers were doing with these helped design and make the modern clarinet a more enjoyable instrument to listen to.  I tend to think a majority of the integrated barrel clarinets built in the period from 1895-1905 were more on the lines of "hand" built than mass production line models, especially the higher quality ones. Not impossible to find even today, but very few of these integrated examples stood the test of time, as I stated earlier, upper end cracks were the norm in these integrated models, and most were discarded over the years, but I do find it ironic that the ones that have endured for over 100 years, usually are a little nicer sounding and seem to be built just a little better than their counterparts.  Just my opinion, I think every collector should go out of their way add at least a one or two of these to their collection and compare them side by side with other clarinets, I think you will be pleasantly surprised.   Modernicus you get yours re-padded, I would be curious to see how yours sounds, unfortunately mine was cleaned up, oiled and put into storage a few years ago, mostly because I already had a handful of integrated barrel clarinets and at the time didn't have the time or desire to completely go through mine, though it may make it's way out of storage in the near future!
I just received my 1929 Buescher True Tone 731 metal clarinet in the mail today. It looks pretty good for an unrestored horn that is nearly 100 years old! The principal difficulty is going to be getting the adjustable tuning barrel to work. If I understand things correctly—and I’m not certain that I do—I think that I should be able to rotate the barrel one turn at a time, and it will get slightly longer or shorter with each rotation. I think that my problem is that there are two threaded tabs that engage with threads in the lower part of the barrel. These are keys that engage the keyways in the upper part of the body of the clarinet. When the barrel is twisted, these tabs ought to slide in the female threads that are cut into the bore of the lower part of the barrel. Mine are immovable. I’m soaking the assembly in a mixture of acetone and hydraulic fluid. The tabs protrude slightly, and I can get a screwdriver corner under the end and pry. The end flexes up out of the thread when I do that. It puzzles me, if the pieces are loose enough to wiggle, why I can’t just pry them out?
Make and Model lists and research / Re: Is this legit or a fake(copy)?
« Last post by DaveLeBlanc on April 04, 2022, 05:20:32 AM »
There’s any number of reasons why a clarinet might have a plastic bell. Sometimes there was surplus for another model or line, restamped.

Sometimes, to save costs (you need a rather large block of wood to make a bell), they went with another material.

Sometimes a different material bell was just a feature of a particular model. I wouldn’t read too much into it.
All about Clarinets / Re: 1917 Buffet Crampon Boehm A LP
« Last post by modernicus on April 03, 2022, 08:25:51 AM »
This one will be a player more than a looker. Maybe I'll send it on to my father if I can get it set up well and it plays decently, he sometimes has want of an A, but is too frugal to buy himself one.  I probably should have learned that lesson from him besides all the other things I learned from him, but nope...
Make and Model lists and research / Re: Is this legit or a fake(copy)?
« Last post by mechanic on April 02, 2022, 05:44:16 PM »


This page says: In later years, White did import some wood clarinets for sale under the 'Cleveland' or 'American Standard' brand name.
[/size]There are numerous French stencil clarinets with wood joints and plastic barrels and bells.   The Cleveland bell could be one of those. 
Make and Model lists and research / Re: Is this legit or a fake(copy)?
« Last post by Snorky on April 02, 2022, 05:18:19 PM »
Yeah, I hear what your saying. Doesn't make sense to to copy it.
Why I said that is that I couldn't find anything about HN White making a plastic bell for any clarinet. All I could find was that they made all metal ones.
But it doesn't matter. I think I'll just say it's a Frankennet :-)
Thanks for your help and also the links for the Silver Throat. Jeff
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