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Offline DaveLeBlanc

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Counterfeit?
« on: August 16, 2016, 12:49:46 AM »
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Re: Counterfeit?
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2016, 06:19:29 PM »
Probably comes out of the other door of the Chinese plant that pops out those ersatz Buffets.

One look says, ummm... No.  Not Yamaha.
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Re: Counterfeit?
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2016, 07:32:40 PM »
Definitely Chinese. The right hand bis key is a dead giveaway.

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Re: Counterfeit?
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2016, 08:20:04 PM »
This listing was ended by the seller because the item is no longer available.

Surprise, surprise.

What that probably means is that someone local bought it.
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Re: Counterfeit?
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2016, 02:33:07 PM »
Speaking of counterfeit, I bought a "Backun" bell off ebay a few months ago for 25 bucks.  It is not engraved.  It does have the voicing groove, though, and dimensionally, appears to be identical to the Backun.  Did Backun ever make unengraved bells?  Seconds, perhaps?  Castoffs?

Right after I bought it, the seller pulled the plug on the remainder of his "Backun" barrels...
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Re: Counterfeit?
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2016, 06:32:33 PM »
Seller Pacific Winds often sells Backun factory seconds.  I once got a whole bunch of unfinished barrels that were definitely Backun products, but QC took them off the line before completion.  I sent them to Martin Freres for finishing and ended up with a bunch of $4 Backun barrels :)

As for your bell, I would imagine it's much the same situation.  Pacific Winds has several times offered unengraved Backun bells that were never finished for whatever reason.
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Re: Counterfeit?
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2016, 07:12:13 PM »
Good to know.  It was probably bored wrong, as it will only fit my Noblet 45, among all the clarinets I have.  It's just too tight for any of my others.  I could throw it on a lathe, and open it up about 10 thou, and I think it would fit most of them, then.
Heck, 25 bucks for a real Backun is a steal--especially with a voicing groove.
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