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Offline LarryS

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Sore thumb
« on: November 22, 2017, 12:03:09 PM »
 The only trouble with clarinet is it kills my thumb! Not necessarily on the top, the rubber thumb protector helps there, it's more where the thumb holds the body of the instrument. Not sure if it's the angle I'm holding my thumb or just pressure on the body. Might have to try a sponge on the body itself

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Re: Sore thumb
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2017, 05:35:29 PM »
You'll be needing a thumb saddle, then.

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« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2017, 06:07:49 PM »
I have to agree with Windsong on this one!



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Re: Sore thumb
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2017, 06:50:34 PM »
And I too LOVE my "Nifty" thumb saddles, on several horns. But I do have a thumb issue all my own.

As long as I've played woodwinds (since age 9) I felt that the thumb rests were too low. First clarinet, then saxes, now clarinets again. Now that I work on my horns, I must raise the thumb rest. Even on the new horns with adjustable rests raised all the way, I still want about 7/8 inch (22mm) higher position!

If I play too much without a raised rest, I can get serious pain in my hand, around the base of my thumb. So my hand is unusual ... perhaps yours is too? Maybe your rest us up too HIGH? All I can say from here, is that joint pains if not addressed can take (with me, often) a year to heal. Best to deal with it!

To adapt the Nifty rests to my desired position, rather than mechanically move the metal thumb rest, I remove it and glue the Nifty exactly where I want it.

For my 9-year old granddaughter, on her C clarinet, the Nifty works just fine. To prevent her from losing it, I glued it over the metal thumb rest with silicone. Then I dug out some foam from the case to accommodate it, and glued fabric over the indentation I made. I had to do the same in all my cases. For ABS plastic clarinets, don't use CA glue. It works, but ... welds itself into the plastic. Contact cement should be fine, like for corks.
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Re: Sore thumb
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2017, 12:04:12 AM »
The thing is my makeshift  strap attaches to the thumb tab so i have to adjust it to make it the right length, tho to be honest I'm not sure what good it does in the role of support. But I can't afford a proper strap.
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Re: Sore thumb
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2017, 11:28:05 AM »
If it props it up right, it's proper for you, my friend!

Strap adjustment is critical, and you must maintain a consistent posture in order to not influence your embouchure. If you like to move around, practice bowing from the waist so you don't alter your blowing angle (regardless of using strap or not). You'll see jazz players do this, always maintaining blowing angle even at extreme postures.

Regarding the squeeking, experiment with vertical placement of the reed. A few hairs up/down from the MP tip makes a difference. Up a bit simulates using a slightly harder reed.
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Re: Sore thumb
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2017, 12:09:51 PM »
Windy, what do you mean by blowing from the waist?
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Re: Sore thumb
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2017, 08:10:21 PM »
I mean BOWING, not blowing, from the waist. If you bend at the waist to look downward, you don't disturb the geometry involved in the embouchure.
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Re: Sore thumb
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2017, 12:24:16 AM »
I mean BOWING, not blowing, from the waist. If you bend at the waist to look downward, you don't disturb the geometry involved in the embouchure.
Oh I tend to move all over the place when playing. Especially if it's a jazzy piece!
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Re: Sore thumb
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2017, 02:05:53 AM »
I mean BOWING, not blowing, from the waist. If you bend at the waist to look downward, you don't disturb the geometry involved in the embouchure.
Oh I tend to move all over the place when playing. Especially if it's a jazzy piece!

You need to watch this

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Re: Sore thumb
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2017, 02:27:33 AM »
I mean BOWING, not blowing, from the waist. If you bend at the waist to look downward, you don't disturb the geometry involved in the embouchure.
Oh I tend to move all over the place when playing. Especially if it's a jazzy piece!

You need to watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5twANQ7S050
Oh I like his stuff, even tho it's mostly bass he plays
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Re: Sore thumb
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2017, 02:41:38 AM »
That video was hilarious! So thats why they recommend using a strap, lol
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