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Offline cunnie

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Aggressive mouthpieces
« on: March 09, 2018, 02:18:45 AM »
Hello to the forum users.
I'm searching for recommendations on aggressive clarinet mouthpieces. By aggressive I mean ones producing a jazz, sax-like, possibly plastic/metallic sound (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AL-pSq6kInY) as opposed to the mellow woody sound of the classical clarinet.
The quality of the tone doesn't have to be so good as I'm searching for a dirty type of sound. However it has to be of low price.
Any recommendation is appreciated a lot.
Thank you!

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Re: Aggressive mouthpieces
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2018, 07:14:06 AM »
Respectfully, while I'm about as open-minded as one can be, concerning artistic expression, and love (and play) jazz, that was excruciating.  I can literally see the saliva dripping from the bell.

If I were you, I would contact Peter and ask him what MP and reed he is using.  I'd be surprised if you received an answer, but it's worth a shot.

I suspect a very soft, fluttery reed, and a wide open, non-baffled chamber and a tip opening above .122.  Part of this sound is caused by amplified distortion, and of course-- "technique".



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Re: Aggressive mouthpieces
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2018, 09:39:09 AM »
They actually do make metal clarinet mouthpieces.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F132276238610

I got one before and the tip was super open. Not for me but I guess it would work for some people.
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Re: Aggressive mouthpieces
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2018, 12:30:57 PM »
Thank you both for the suggestions.
Dave - can you describe what that mouthpiece sounds like? I stumbled upon that one but have no idea how it sounds.
Still open to more suggestions.

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Re: Aggressive mouthpieces
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2018, 01:51:44 PM »
It’s been quite a while but I think I remember that being pretty resistive, and then with an explosion once you got past it. Sort of like how a balloon resists until you overcome that initial resistance.
It was quite loud and a bit too hard to control for me, but that may have just been due to the wide open tip that I wasn’t used to.
Here’s something else you may try:
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F302656022650
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Re: Aggressive mouthpieces
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2018, 01:42:49 PM »
cunnie, Go back to the youtube video that you link to and read the comment that says "But not is a Clarinet, is a tarogato."

A tarogato is more like a soprano sax than a clarinet. The bore is fully conical (a clarinet is cylindrical except near the bottom). THAT is why it sounds sax-like. You won't emulate that with any clarinet because the harmonic structure of the sound is completely different.
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Re: Aggressive mouthpieces
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2018, 01:53:31 PM »
Good catch, Windy. I didn't even notice that but now that you mention it, it's pretty obvious.

You can put a metal mouthpiece with that little "jazz" insert onto a clarinet but like you said, nothing will really overcome the physical limitations of a conical bore.

@cunnie, if you're looking for a jazzy sound, a metal clarinet is a decent first step, as it provides a bit of metallic tone. Put a wide open mouthpiece with a the insert and you might get something close to what you're looking for.
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Re: Aggressive mouthpieces
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2021, 07:23:32 PM »
rico metalite-runyon bionex and lakey studio are all very powerfull loud clarinet mpcs