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Offline WyoWind

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Why is the Silver Conn 424N difficult to research?
« on: November 23, 2019, 08:42:36 AM »
Why is the Silver Conn 424N difficult to research?
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Re: Why is the Silver Conn 424N difficult to research?
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2019, 08:44:06 AM »
424N-B-214130-L

ANY INFO WOULD BE APPRECIATED!!
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Re: Why is the Silver Conn 424N difficult to research?
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2019, 03:44:44 PM »
It's a rare horn. Pics would be greatly appreciated! 

Here's a test video (audio only) of one. 

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Re: Why is the Silver Conn 424N difficult to research?
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2019, 09:08:20 PM »
https://www.saxophone.org/museum/publications/museumType/1/manufacturer/13


This site has Conn catalogs going back into the late 1800's.
 The 424N's that I have seen and that show up in the Conn catalogs are all wood, from about 1940 to 1949.  In the 30's and into the 40's there was a 514N that was metal. 
If the serial number lists are correct, yours would be from 1930.
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Re: Why is the Silver Conn 424N difficult to research?
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2019, 10:55:15 PM »
I'll correct myself,  after a little more digging, here's a site with 3 of them.  http://www.angelfire.com/in2/easyliving/Standard/ArmoredConn.html


According to this, there weren't many made and they don't appear in any of the catalogs.  Definitely a good find.
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Re: Why is the Silver Conn 424N difficult to research?
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2019, 08:44:21 AM »
I donít even want to hazard a guess as to value. Iíve seen double wall Conn clarinets sell for between $500 and $4000 on eBay...

Either way, itís somethinf worth getting restored, for preservation purposes if nothing else
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Re: Why is the Silver Conn 424N difficult to research?
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2019, 02:46:53 PM »
I donít even want to hazard a guess as to value. Iíve seen double wall Conn clarinets sell for between $500 and $4000 on eBay...

Either way, itís somethinf worth getting restored, for preservation purposes if nothing else
What does it mean by armoured? Double skinned?
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Re: Why is the Silver Conn 424N difficult to research?
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2019, 04:50:45 PM »
As I understand it, there is an inner metal wall, then a gap filled by something, and an outer metal wall- hence double wall.

Picture walls in your house - there are two separate walls with insulation in the middl.
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Re: Why is the Silver Conn 424N difficult to research?
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2019, 08:30:46 PM »
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Re: Why is the Silver Conn 424N difficult to research?
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2019, 08:33:44 PM »
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Re: Why is the Silver Conn 424N difficult to research?
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2019, 08:38:54 PM »
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Re: Why is the Silver Conn 424N difficult to research?
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2019, 08:43:20 PM »
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Re: Why is the Silver Conn 424N difficult to research?
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2019, 08:47:56 PM »
I'm going to post it on ebay... What would I call it? Title? Description?
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Re: Why is the Silver Conn 424N difficult to research?
« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2019, 09:17:48 PM »
Iím certain you can get significantly more after a nice overhaul.

Iím about the cheapest option you have at just $150 for an overhaul. Message me if youíre interested!
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Re: Why is the Silver Conn 424N difficult to research?
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2019, 12:19:27 PM »
I appreciate your offer.  That is a very reasonable price for an overhaul!  I'm not looking to invest any more money, I'm looking to sell it as is to some lucky buyer that can also make some money off of it if desired, or keep it and have a rare item for a great price.  I just don't know how to title it or describe it.  I'm not musically inclined and I don't know much about this beautiful instrument.

I have many questions:

Is it an "Almighty" C.G. Conn?

Is it a "Pro Model"?

I believe it's a JAZZ player's dream?

Is it "Armored"?

Basically all it's "basic" information would be greatly appreciated!
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