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Offline modernicus

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Whoa, check out this mouthpiece!!!
« on: December 19, 2020, 08:18:11 AM »
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mouthpiece-Moschos-sons-that-converts-a-Clarinet-to-a-Kaval/283991568574?hash=item421f3770be:g:lgUAAOSwN1Ne9IQZ

Kaval flute mouthpiece for clarinet!  The Kaval is an end blown folk flute from the Balkans/Anatolia region. How cool is that?
« Last Edit: December 19, 2020, 08:23:49 AM by modernicus »
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Re: Whoa, check out this mouthpiece!!!
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2020, 12:16:19 PM »
It's shorter than I would have imagined.  I'll see if I can 3d print something similar.  I can get pretty close to the external dimensions from the photo.  A straight 15mm bore would probably be a good starting point for the internals.  The only problem is, the last time I blew a kaval I could barely get a sound out of it.

They have other interesting things too

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Moschos-Sons-Mouthpiece-Clarinet-A18-Tip-opening-2-25/283855917327?hash=item421721910f:g:Pt0AAOSwGEJeoDeA

2.25mm tip opening!

Perhaps that's the way to go if you want that Eastern Mediterranean sound but where would you find a reed soft enough for a beast like that?

I think that's a bit extreme even for that part of the world.

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Re: Whoa, check out this mouthpiece!!!
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2020, 02:52:12 PM »
Yes, 2.25mm would be insane- would you have to make your own reeds maybe?  I've never tried a Kaval, heard it's difficult.  I do really like the sounds of the folk instruments and music from the regions where Europe and the Middle east come together.
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Re: Whoa, check out this mouthpiece!!!
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2020, 04:52:28 AM »
Now get a duduk reed adaptor and see how it sounds!

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Re: Whoa, check out this mouthpiece!!!
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2020, 10:58:58 AM »
That would be interesting. I've seen in videos, a alto (?) duduk that looks like a German or simple-system clarinet. But I suspect it's specially tuned for the double-reed.

The Turkish and Balkan/Greek players get a very reedy, more native sound (often not recognizable as a clarinet) by using a microphone (pickup) inserted into a drilled hole in the barrel. You can see this on many videos. Ironically, it creates a more primitive sound like ancient instruments. I think it bypasses the characteristic clarinet voicing that occurs in the whole instrument.
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« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2020, 12:14:31 PM »
It's not just the barrel mic.  They play totally differently.  Wide open mouthpieces, strength 1 reeds.

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Re: Whoa, check out this mouthpiece!!!
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2020, 06:36:10 AM »
I've always thought it would be neat if there was a tenor recorder with all the keys of the clarinet. So maybe a recorder head to fit on a clarinet ...
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Re: Whoa, check out this mouthpiece!!!
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2020, 01:28:06 PM »
There was a keyed recorder called a czakan that was popular in Hungary and Vienna the early 19th century.  They are very rare now but I think one or two people make copies.

Adapting a clarinet would be unlikely to work well other than in the first register.  The bore's all wrong.  However you do have quite a decent range in the first register.

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Re: Whoa, check out this mouthpiece!!!
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2020, 02:43:11 PM »
There was a keyed recorder called a czakan that was popular in Hungary and Vienna the early 19th century.  They are very rare now but I think one or two people make copies.

Adapting a clarinet would be unlikely to work well other than in the first register.  The bore's all wrong.  However you do have quite a decent range in the first register.
I've heard of the Czakan, I've read a few posts about them on a german recorder forum I post on.
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