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Author Topic: 1899 Evette & Schaeffer Bb (LP) Boehm w/ Integrated barrel  (Read 5101 times)

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Re: 1899 Evette & Schaeffer Bb (LP) Boehm w/ Integrated barrel
« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2021, 05:01:12 AM »
You can pull the mouthpiece and then the middle joint, yep.  A little more limited.  I've never heard a good explanation why these exist, seems to have been most popular in France from sometime in the early mid 19th century to the early 20th century.
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Re: 1899 Evette & Schaeffer Bb (LP) Boehm w/ Integrated barrel
« Reply #31 on: November 29, 2021, 08:39:50 PM »
I found another one of these integrated barrel Evette & Schaeffers. 8)

Edit:Aaaaaaand I just bought it....... :-[   Why must I do these things. ;)

If the bell, aside from the bad engraving, isn't original- of course I have one that matches!
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Re: 1899 Evette & Schaeffer Bb (LP) Boehm w/ Integrated barrel
« Reply #32 on: December 19, 2021, 12:45:09 PM »
Unfortunately, this may be lost in France...
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Re: 1899 Evette & Schaeffer Bb (LP) Boehm w/ Integrated barrel
« Reply #33 on: December 20, 2021, 09:27:23 AM »
Bummer about that awful engraving. You might be able to fill it in with CA and some wood powder.
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Re: 1899 Evette & Schaeffer Bb (LP) Boehm w/ Integrated barrel
« Reply #34 on: December 20, 2021, 10:01:42 AM »
That's if it isn't lost.  If that's not the original bell, I happen to have a matching one! 
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Re: 1899 Evette & Schaeffer Bb (LP) Boehm w/ Integrated barrel
« Reply #35 on: December 20, 2021, 01:42:33 PM »
Thanks for the clarification, Windsong. Now it kind of makes sense, as even whiskeys from that time in France had the same inscription on them. Had hope that it would lead to some model name or something like that, as many Buffet models have their names below the brand logo. Guess that unless some expert in old Buffet clarinets chimes in, that will be unknown...
While searching i came across more 3 or 4 similar clarinets, all from Buffet and ranging from 1898 to 1905, so it seems that still there are some of them out there.

They didn't have model names back then.  The nearest thing you might find is a catalogue number but even that isn't really a model number.

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Re: 1899 Evette & Schaeffer Bb (LP) Boehm w/ Integrated barrel
« Reply #36 on: December 20, 2021, 01:59:17 PM »
Has anyone found another Evette and Schaeffer like this, though?  We know the one featured on the original post, which I remember for sale in the USA quite well, a bell with the same logo that came on a 19th c. Buffet Crampon I have (obviously not original), then this one I bought from France, but maybe potentially lost. The place that usually ships stuff to me from France stopped responding suddenly
 Don't know if they're dead or what happened.  Package was delivered to them but I can't get a hold of them.  I'll have to see if anyone I know in Europe is going near that area sometime, or if they can call for me, I don't speak any other languages, really, only read and understand some Spanish, German, French, etc...

Edit: it looks like my account on their website shows more up to date data now.... maybe we're back in business!
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Re: 1899 Evette & Schaeffer Bb (LP) Boehm w/ Integrated barrel
« Reply #37 on: January 21, 2022, 11:27:52 AM »
Good news, it finally made it to me!  I'll be posting about my newest (old) clarinets soon, and will be making a post about it.  The serial number corresponds with an 1897 Buffet Crampon serial number, while below the E&S is stamped with 98.  I don't believe the bell is original, but I miraculously have a one with a matching stamp, as mentioned!  The bell I have is stamped 07 below the E&S, so apparently these were made at the very least between 1897-1906/7 by Buffet Crampon and stamped Evette & Schaeffer (Of course we know Evette & Schaeffer bought Buffet Crampon in 1885).
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Re: 1899 Evette & Schaeffer Bb (LP) Boehm w/ Integrated barrel
« Reply #38 on: January 26, 2022, 10:00:21 PM »
Please promise us you will open a museum someday.
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Re: 1899 Evette & Schaeffer Bb (LP) Boehm w/ Integrated barrel
« Reply #39 on: January 27, 2022, 07:24:42 AM »
I've been debating on what to do with all these!  I'll build a large display case for home office/workshop room of some sort to begin with, already planning for that.  A museum would be cool. 8) Maybe years from now when the collection strength is undeniable.  I'm just one middle class guy, so it's hard to get the best, but I have my eye out for overlooked, interesting stuff.
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Re: 1899 Evette & Schaeffer Bb (LP) Boehm w/ Integrated barrel
« Reply #40 on: January 27, 2022, 07:33:35 AM »
Yes!  These old clarinets need to be on display.

I have this dream of a display case with dramatic lighting and little placards with info next to each instrument. Museum style.

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Re: 1899 Evette & Schaeffer Bb (LP) Boehm w/ Integrated barrel
« Reply #41 on: January 27, 2022, 09:49:33 AM »
That's basically kind of what I'm picturing- one design stumbling block is on top of some glass sliding doors, I'd like a way to have it covered and I was thinking a tambour door of some sort.  However, the depth required for the doors to slide out of the way is overkill for displaying single depth row of clarinets.
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