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Offline jeboone

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Help on Clarinet with no logo or model number
« on: July 01, 2023, 01:18:25 PM »
I have a student model clarinet with no markings.   The serial number is C046842 with out a model number.   The only list of clarinet numbers that I could find starting with a C was the Vito student models.  It had two series.  One starting the the 1970s and another in the 1990s.  I am guessing the second series was also stamped with the model number.   Both of the Vito lists were only 5 numbers long so I don't think this is a Vito.  It is in a Buffet Crampon case but it may not be its original case. Any ideas?

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Re: Help on Clarinet with no logo or model number
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2023, 12:47:29 PM »
Gonna need some pics on this one. I will need to see the finish on the body - is it smooth or glossy?

Buffet B12 models had a transfer-stamp sort of logo that almost always wears off after a little while. However, the body has a sort of "brushed" finish, which can help identify it as a Buffet vice Vito or Bundy (which typically had a glossy finish).
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Re: Help on Clarinet with no logo or model number
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2023, 01:57:50 PM »
If it's one of the Vito models the RH trill keys will be straight with the key cups in a direct line with the key. I believe that Leblanc was the only maker to do this. They did make a couple of models with the key cups offset (like most other makers), but I don't this that Vito did. Vito will have a very smooth, shiny finish and should be stamped somewhere made in Kenosha. Pictures would be a big help.
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Re: Help on Clarinet with no logo or model number
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2023, 01:58:24 PM »
If it's one of the Vito models the RH trill keys will be straight with the key cups in a direct line with the key. I believe that Leblanc was the only maker to do this. They did make a couple of models with the key cups offset (like most other makers), but I don't this that Vito did.
Conn and Selmer USA also did inline trill keys.

There are a couple uncommon Vito models that have offset trill keys - the Reso II and Reso-Tone 2 of the 1960s.
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Re: Help on Clarinet with no logo or model number
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2023, 11:54:57 AM »
Another hint is the style of Buffet case. If it's a plastic case with a gray cloth layer, then it's almost certainly a Buffet B12. It would be unusual for someone to put a different clarinet into a student Buffet case.
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Re: Help on Clarinet with no logo or model number
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2023, 06:00:04 PM »
Check the underside of the trill key touch pieces.  Vito's are straight across, with Selmer products, 2 or more will be concave.  The Buescher Aristocrat has concave touch pieces on all 4 trill keys.
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